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Jiquxx
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Does anybody have Schizophrenia and have a problem with hearing voices?

I have Schizophrenia and bipolar disorder and have been diagnosed as schizoaffective and it started when I was 20 years old and I'm 53 years old now. I started smoking cigarettes back then and have been smoking for 32 years now. I have tried to quit smoking using the patches, gum, lozenges, spray, bupropion, Chantix, acupuncture, chamomile tea and have only been able to quit smoking temporarily each time. I forgot how many times I tried to quit smoking but I have always relapsed. I have a problem with hearing voices which is a symptom of Schizophrenia and I have a psychiatrist who I talk to and she prescribes my medication. I'm not going to give up on quitting smoking and keep trying until I succeed. I just wanted to know if anyone else is going through this. 

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constanceclum
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I don't personally know anyone with schizophrenia, but I understand that anyone, with any disorder can quit smoking. It takes that 100% ongoing commitment. I've also heard that quitting smoking helps mental health symptoms.

Barbara145
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Welcome to this site. I was a nurse in a psychiatric hospital for 10 years.  I understand your struggles.  Don't ever quit quitting.  I smoked for 52 years and tried to quit many times.  I was not successful until I found this site.  I believe you can do this.  Keeping you in my prayers.

YoungAtHeart
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Welcome to our community!

Let us help you quit DIFFERENTLY this time.  You listed all the NRT's you have tried - but you need first to understand there is nothing that is going to quit FOR you.  This isn't easy for anyone, but education, preparation, planning, and support will make it doable.  You just must provide the commitment to not smoke another cigarette NO MATTER WHAT and honor that decision every day.  With your mental illness, I would definitely talk to your specialist about quitting.  There may be interactions with the NRTs and your medications of which you need to be aware.  It is unfortunate that the medical and psychiatric professions are not very informed about this addiction, but you should give them a chance to help...just don't expect too much.

The important thing you can do right now is to educate yourself on what nicotine does to your body and mind. To that end, I highly recommend Allen Carr's “The Easy Way to Stop Smoking.” This easy and entertaining read provided a world of good information about nicotine addiction, most of which I was not aware.  I credit it in large part with my success at quitting.   You can search for it online or at your local library.


 You should also read the posts here and perhaps go to the pages of folks who you think might be helpful. You might visit whyquit.com, quitsmoking.com and livewell.com for the good information contained there. @https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/groups/best-of-ex has lots of blogs written by members of this site with their experiences and guidance. Here is a video to inform you further about nicotine addiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpWMgPHn0Lo&feature=youtu.be.

After you have completed the recommended reading, it will be time to make an informed choice of the quit aid, if any, you will use. If you go that route, I personally recommend the aids that don't let the addict control the dose such as the available prescription drugs or the patch. If used properly, gum, lozenges and inhalers are fine, but they need to be used only as a last resort after you have tried to delay and distract.   I have seen folks become addicted to them if they substitute them for every cigarette they used to smoke - just trading one addiction for another.  You need to start out with a plan to reduce use of them over time - which the patch does by decreasing the dose contained in them..  For the gum, you can start by cutting each piece in half, then in quarters, then sub regular gum of the same flavor in between, adding more and more regular gum.  For the lozenge, you need to start subbing a mint in between to begin, increasing the number of them over time. I do not recommend the e-cigarette for four reasons: 1) the vapor has been compared to the polluted air in Bejing on a bad day, 2) they just provide another nicotine delivery system while continuing the hand to mouth smoking motion,  3) the batteries can spontaneously catch on fire and 4) you can become addicted to that and it has not yet been proven safe .
 

It will be informative if you do the tracking and separation exercises recommended here on the site. As you track each cigarette smoked, note its importance, and what you might do instead. Put each one off just a little to prove that you don't NEED a cigarette just because you think you do.
 

The idea is to change up your routines so the smoking associations are reduced.  Drink your coffee with your OTHER hand in a place different from when you smoked. Maybe switch to tea for a bit.  If you always had that first smoke with your coffee, try putting your tennies on right out of bed, going for a quick walk, then taking your shower and THEN your coffee! Rearrange the furniture in the areas you used to smoke so the view is different. Buy your gas at a different station. Take a different route to work. Take a quick walk at break time where the smokers AREN'T.
 
You need to distract yourself through any craves.  You can take a bite out of a lemon (yup - rind and all), put your head in the freezer and take a deep breath of cold air, do a few jumping jacks, go for a brisk walk or march in place, play a computer game.  Keep a cold bottle of water with you from which to sip. Don't let that smoking thought rattle around in your brain unchallenged. Sometimes you need to quit a minute or an hour at a time.  You will need to be disciplined in the early days to distract yourself when a crave hits.    Get busy!  Here is a link to a list of things to do instead of smoke if you need some fresh ideas:
 https://excommunity.becomeanex.org/blogs/Youngatheart.7.4.12-blog/2013/02/25/100-things-to-do-instea...


The conversation in your head in response to the "I want a cigarette" thought needs to be, "Well, since I have decided not to do that anymore, what shall I do instead for the three minutes this crave will last?"  Then DO it.  You will need to put some effort into this in the early days, but it gets easier and easier to do.

Stay close to us here and ask questions when you have them and for support when you need it. We will be with you every step of the way!


 Nancy

JACKIE1-25-15
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Welcome to EX.  You have come to the right place for support.  Quitting  is hard work no matter what circumstances have to deal with. It is doable even with your schizophrenia and bipolar disorder,  You will have to work a little harder than most and be here for support more than others.  You still have to make a commitment that no matter what you will not smoke. NOPE, not one puff ever and not use any EXcuses.  You may be hearing the same voice that we have heard. The little man on the shoulder that says "just one" is okay.  The just one will get you every time. Stick around and learn to knock the little man off of your shoulder and stomp on it just like I did.  NOPE will keep you free. I believe you can quit.  You can do it when you start believing that you can.  So start saying YES I CAN!!!!!  We are in your corner. 

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sweetplt
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HI and Welcome to Ex’s...I hope you read here and try some of the above suggestions to quit smoking...in the meantime, I hope you speak to your Doctor about quitting smoking and how he/she can help you to manage with your illness....we are here to help you quit smoking...~ Colleen 361 DOF

Barbscloud
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I wish I could be of more help, but this is a complex issue.  From what I've read, you may need to take a different approach than we have to quit.  It "think" you need to work closely with medical personnel to achieve this goal.  Quitting smoking can have an impact on your medications.   We're certainly here to support you emotionally, but please seek support from medical personnel also.  Reach out if you need us.  It's important to you and us.

Barb

Roj
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Welcome to this community... you will get a lot of help reading here...good luck on your quit, educate and believe in yourself...you got this

Giulia
Member

I can't speak to your issue particularly, but I Just came across this video on Schizophrenia and being a new mom.  Thought it might be of interest:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVrghm714LY

 

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mads
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Hi! 

   I know this is an old post, but I just joined and was looking through posts and found this. I don't know if anyone with schizoaffective disorder replied as I haven't sifted through all these comments, but I have schizoaffective disorder as well. I figured as the main question in your post was simply. "is anyone else going through this?" I would pop in and assure you that you aren't alone in that struggle.

   I'm 22 and I have had symptoms since I was around 7 - 8. As a kid, I would see this man standing at the end of my bed, and hear the voice of a "dead guy" inside my grandma's couch, among other hallucinations.

   These occurrences were very sparse at first, but at 14 it REALLY hit me - and that was the same time I started vaping.

   I've quit and relapsed, rinse, repeat, many times. I get it. It's hard to stop using a vice when in a way it feels like self-medication. For me at least, when voices were loud, or an artificial threat was in my bedroom - a nicotine buzz felt like a soft comforting hug. So familiar, and more dependable than any person or medicine could ever be. 

   It never fixed the feeling, or chased any fake threats away, but it sure as hell grounded me. It's hard to explain, but you might get this - when what's real is undetermined, anything that is familiar and habitual is comforting, sheerly due to the fact that it is INDISBUTABLY real.

   I give you my story in the hope you'll feel less alone. This disorder has always made me feel like an outsider, and I don't want anyone to feel that way.  I'm wishing you the very best.

I hope I haven't said too much,

Mads